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Schubert: Symphonies Nos. 6 & 7
Hybrid SACD
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Track Listings
1 | Adagio - Allegro |
2 | Andante |
3 | Scherzo (Presto) |
4 | Allegro Moderato |
5 | Allegro Moderato |
6 | Andante Con Moto |
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Following the critically acclaimed releases of PTC 5186 372, PentaTone presents a recording of Schubert Symphonies 6 and 8 (unfinished) which also features the Flemish Philharmonic Orchestra and Herreweghe.
Product details
- Is Discontinued By Manufacturer : No
- Product Dimensions : 5.63 x 4.92 x 0.51 inches; 3.53 ounces
- Manufacturer : Pentatone Music
- Original Release Date : 2012
- Date First Available : July 21, 2012
- Label : Pentatone Music
- ASIN : B0085BFVNM
- Country of Origin : USA
- Number of discs : 1
- Best Sellers Rank: #400,030 in CDs & Vinyl (See Top 100 in CDs & Vinyl)
- #12,657 in Symphonies (CDs & Vinyl)
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- Reviewed in the United States on February 13, 2021This hybrid SACD – meaning it plays on regular CD players as well as SACD players – offers Schubert’s 6th Symphony and his “Unfinished Symphony” (alternatively labeled his 8th or 7th Symphony) in excellent SACD sound with well executed performances which are, in my opinion, unfortunately diminished by Philippe Herreweghe’s use of minimal vibrato strings.
To my ear the impact of the diminished strings is most pronounced in the 6th Symphony. Comparing Herreweghe’s performance with Istvan Kertesz’s performance and, or, Ricardo Muti’s performance, both with the Vienna Philharmonic and offering rich and vibrant strings to accompany the remainder of the orchestra, vividly highlights what is missing from Herreweghe’s performance.
While the diminished strings are also apparent in the 8th Symphony, Herreweghe has the Royal Flemish Philharmonic playing very well with the result being a sense of missed potential and what might have been. Listeners may also agree that Herreweghe’s performance lacks the deep, dark tones some other performances use to produce intense dynamic contrasts – which go a long way, in my opinion, to making Schubert’s 8th Symphony special. That said, I found Herreweghe’s performance of the 8th Symphony, considered by itself and not in comparison to other performances, enjoyable – but I have many other performances I enjoy more.
Listeners who like minimal string vibrato symphonic performances may want to consider this SACD – I’d recommend searching the web for sound clips (typically 30 to 45 seconds) to sample what you will get. Unfortunately, Amazon seems to have scaled back on those sound clips which I found immensely helpful in deciding whether or not to purchase a CD.
In terms of finding more enjoyable alternatives – for the 6th Symphony I recommend, to mention just two, Ricardo Muti’s superb Schubert Symphony cycle with the Vienna Philharmonic and Istvan Kertesz’s similarly superb Schubert Symphony cycle also with the Vienna Philharmonic. Both of those cycles also offer extremely enjoyable performances of the 8th Symphony. Muti’s cycle is readily available at an extremely reasonable price. Kertesz’s cycle can be difficult to find – I purchased a used copy about a year ago from the Amazon Japan marketplace and several weeks ago saw a 24-bit remaster copy on Tower Records of Japan which I immediately purchased. For an extremely enjoyable 8th Symphony performance which is not part of a Schubert Symphony cycle, I’d recommend Otto Klemperer with the Philharmonia Orchestra. While Klemperer’s performance dates from the early 1960s, it is, in my opinion, a magnificent performance and the remastered sound is more than adequate to allow listeners to enjoy Klemperer’s interpretation which provides excellent instrumental detail. Klemperer’s performance of the 8th Symphony is available on the Amazon Japan site in SACD with a superb performance of the 9th Symphony – search the Amazon Japan site for ASIN: B01GEWJEUE or EAN: 4943674240456.
Overall, except for listeners who like minimal vibrato performances of Schubert’s 6th and 8th Symphonies, I recommend against purchasing this disc.
- Reviewed in the United States on December 7, 2012First, a clarification: Amazon's header for this item lists it as "Symphonies 6, 7 and (8)," which might lead some to believe that it includes a realization of Schubert's unfinished D. 729. It doesn't. The disc has two symphonies: the No. 6 and the Unfinished, which is now usually designated No. 8 but which in the past has been assigned by some as No. 7. Okay? Having said that, let me indicate that I find both performances quite good, though I'm still thinking about No. 6, the so-called "Little C Major." I have found Philippe Herreweghe to be an interesting conductor, and I've enjoyed his renditions of Beethoven, Schumann and the "Great C Major" Symphony of Schubert, and it was a recording of the latter that prompted me to buy the disc under review. And I'm not disappointed at all. In the first go round, I was a little taken aback by the performance of the No. 6, which in Herreweghe's hands seems to have inflated a bit into the "Not-so-Little C Major." Comparing it with other favorite recordings, such as that by Anima Eterna Brugge under Jos van Immerseel, I found this rendition to be a bit stiff and formal, but on subsequent rounds I think it's not so much that the performance is stiff as it is that Herreweghe really does pump this work up a bit, so that it shifts toward the ground occupied by it's much grander brother, No. 9. And on continued hearings, I've decided that that's not such a bad thing. A work can be interpreted in more than one way, and though some might be wrong there is, in my opinion, no one "right" interpretation in music. Adding a bit more marble to the No. 6 works, I think, and I'll put this interpretation down as another possible "right" way to do it. Meanwhile, as the No. 8 began I thought I might be let down -- here, in my view, Herreweghe takes a little while to really get started. When he does, however -- maybe a third of the way into the first movement -- then it's one assertive journey to the end, including the entirety of the second movement. There's a compelling quality to the performance that remains under control even as it slowly reaches for the most sensitive portions of your anatomy. Minus that very beginning, this is one of the best renditions of the Unfinished Symphony that I've come across. The Royal Flemish Philharmonic is a modern big band, but the playing is informed by aspects of the "authentic performance" movement, leading to clarity despite heft. There's perhaps a little to get used to and one or two moments that are less than perfect, but this in my view is a top-flight disc.
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Hansjörg EgliReviewed in Germany on January 22, 2014
5.0 out of 5 stars Meine Bewertung der vorliegenden Aufnahme
Ich wurde von amazon per E-Mail zur Bewertung aufgefordert.
Nun - ich bin nach wie vor SACD-Fan (vorwiegend Klassik) und schätze gute Aufnahmen. Eine wirklich gute Aufnahme der "Unvollendeten" fehlte mir bis heute. Die vorliegende Aufnahme ist nach meiner Auffassung hervorragend. Ich bin nicht nur von der Aufnahmetechnik, sondern auch von der Interpretation mit Philippe Herreweghe vollumfänglich begeistert. Ich bin allerdings nicht Profi, sondern nur Amateur und lasse mich nur von meinem Eindruck leiten. Höre die Aufnahmen auf einer guten 7.1 - Anlage.
Ich würde es sehr bedauern, wenn die Produktion von guten SACD-Aufnahmen (wegen mangelnder Nachfrage?) eines Tages eingestellt würde.
Mit freundlichen Grüssen - Hansjörg Egli
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SylviaReviewed in Germany on October 12, 2020
4.0 out of 5 stars geniale CD
Gute CD, Musik leider etwas zu getragen, jedoch sehr ausdrucksstark und von hohem Niveau